For Christine Ockrent, determination, courage and subtlety characterize Nicole Notat and Laurence Parisot, who have succeeded in taking the reins in particularly «male-centred» organisations.

Laurence Parisot believes that feminine management is more fluid. She pointed out that the first thing she did when she took over at Medef was to introduce diversity, not only of gender, but also of generation, professional background and nationality.

Both speakers share the same views on the needs of their organisations—the ability to see and decode reality in order to provide concrete solutions in line with society’s expectations.

Wage equality was also brought up. Both speakers agreed that the issue calls for a thorough analysis to explain differing salaries between men and women. Nicole Notat pointed out that one must not forget that published figures are only averages;  women are more numerous in less qualified jobs, and are therefore paid less, or are in part-time jobs. It is therefore essential not to have a 'Manichean' attitude. We must root out the causes of these differences, and set up concrete actions to correct the situation, which means going through the channels of training, promotion, and career management.

Nicole Notat revived the debate on the rehabilitation of business in terms of its economic and social  purpose. Laurence Parisot agreed that management should express themselves and stop being afraid, while accusing Medef and other institutions for their lack of image.

In terms of women and trust, Nicole Notat noted that all «newcomers», be they men or women (the latter having more impact as they have a shorter history in key management positions) are «beacons of hope». Laurence Parisot concluded that the disappearance of the divide and reinforcing diversity are essential to restoring a climate of confidence in our societies.